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J.J. Myatt

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1.	Great article. Comment by Bob W. — December 27, 2012 at 5:00pm
2.	I'm jealous of all that ceiling space. Comment by Caine — December 27, 2012 at 7:00pm
3.	Here's another good article on the subject: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323777204578195470446855466.html Comment by Ferreus — December 27, 2012 at 9:02pm
4.	Today I did some heavy single squats to see where I was, I did some reps at 405lbs and it felt awful, I kept going onto my toes, but I tried 410 and got it with ease, 410 at 17 years old and a 200lbs body weight... I was very satisfied Comment by Csharpe — December 27, 2012 at 11:13pm
5.	second that Bob W....great article. @Caine...high ceiling, and he can probably grunt/yell without his parents telling him to be quiet Comment by Mex — December 28, 2012 at 4:33am
6.	Fell off of a 52' platform on monday, landed directly on my head. have not lifted since then, think ill be back at it next week, I cant believe Im staring at a 1RM box jump today, after attempting one foolishly on monday, only snap my shit up. Comment by davidMck — December 28, 2012 at 5:04am
7.	A garage gym without a dryer is not legit. Comment by Ingo B 96/m/5'10"/185 — December 28, 2012 at 6:29am
8.	fer chrissake... the answer isn't more guns. if lung cancer rates were increasing, would we make it easier to buy cigarettes? if STD rates were increasing, would we encourage unprotected sex? treat the cause... so let's make it easier for everyone to get the very weapons and ammo that were used in these massacres...??? your training and programming are the most intelligent i have found anywhere. your politics? they leave something to be desired. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation?page=2 http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/armed-civilians-do-not-stop-mass-shootings Comment by c'mon man — December 28, 2012 at 6:31am
9.	ASWOD: PC 265 STPU 11, 9, 7 DWOD: 43 1/4 inches Comment by K. Lake — December 28, 2012 at 6:52am
10.	....aaaaand back to training-related topics. Trying to fit CFFB in with work/life/family like most of you. That said, about how long (average) does it take you to complete the workouts? Not whining, just looking for ideas since I'm a garage-gymer with no points for reference. Is it unrealistic to endeavor to be in and out in 60 minutes, which would include prep, w/u, SWOD, DWOD, and clean-up? I'm probably not alone in saying the SWOD is the real time killer, especially if it calls for finding a #RM. All advice is appreciated. Thanks! Comment by Brian Bowers — December 28, 2012 at 6:53am
11.	Good article. Comment by Steve-O — December 28, 2012 at 7:42am
12.	@c'mon man C'mom man, use some common sense. The world is dangerous and won't be less so by removing guns from honest people. Would you hold that opinion is your own family endured a tragedy? If the answer is yes, I submit you haven't done enough thinking on the topic. @ Brian Bowers The SWOD is the magic; always make time for it. Nearly all workouts are between 45 and 75 minutes from setup to DWOD finish with most under 60 minutes. You didn't mention stretching/mobility which will add time. I'll just offer some well worn advice: you might evaluate your training goals in light of other life goals and do what is necessary to make it all work. You can always cut back on the conditioning or remove certain days like Saturday. For me, I work out after the kids go to bed. 60 minutes isn't a lot given the gains I've seen. I'm just trying to get stronger and maintain conditioning though, so 60 minutes works great. Comment by Ben R — December 28, 2012 at 7:57am
13.	And in response to those stupid mother jones articles, please see: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/it-true-armed-civilians-have-never-stopped-mass-shooting_690808.html and http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/mother-joness-own-reporting-contradicts-its-conclusions-gun-violence_690936.html Comment by Rick G. — December 28, 2012 at 8:07am
14.	C' Mon - You know what leaves a lot to be desire? Funny handles to post under b/c you lack the courage to leave your real name and contact info. And my politics they are fine, I thought the article was an interesting take on a problem that is facing America. Here is the bigger problem, how do we get "less" guns in America? No amount of gun control will put the genie back in the bottle. We have had a culture of gun ownership since the first settlers arrived on these shores. Here is a little exert I found... "The FBI estimates that there are over 200 million privately-owned firearms in the US. If you add those owned by the military, law enforcement agencies and museums, there is probably about 1 gun per person in the country. If you want to get a rough idea of how many guns there are out there just look at how many people you see out there then multiply by a factor of estimated ownership. The last best guess was about 350,000,000 Total. That would be 1 weapon for every man woman and child. The average gun enthusiast owns several firearms which includes pistols, shotguns, and rifles of all makes and models. It is often estimated that about 1 in 4 people own any firearms and on average firearms owners own 4 guns each. No one knows the exact number of firearms owned by private citizens in the US, In 1995, the BATFE estimated that there were about 223 million firearms owned by individuals in the US. The number has increased since then. There is no definitive answer, because most states don't require registration. The Small Arms Survey in 2007 by the Graduate Institute of International Studies in Geneva estimated 270 million firearms in the US." Even if you made guns illegal today how would you go about limiting them? Do you believe people would just hand them over? Do think dangerous people will ever not have access to these weapons? This liberal agenda thinks banning all guns will make a difference. It wont. They think limiting magazines capacity or adding bullet buttons will make it harder for people to bad things. It wont. They think adding regulations will stop evil from happening, it wont. And I say this with a heavy heart. If we could magically make all guns disappear and nobody had them, not citizens, military, police or bad guys what would things look like? Would they be better or worse? I would be 100% behind it, but if just one person were armed I would agree with this. I think guns are an all or nothing thing. How can ask just allow some people the right and not others? You can't. George Washington wrote "Individuals entering into society, must give up a share of liberty to preserve the rest. The magnitude of the sacrifice must depend as well on situation and circumstance, as on the object to be obtained." This quote comes to mind when I listen to people talk about gun control or when paying taxes. But GW also wrote this "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." So how do you balance the right to perserve society with restraining evil with the presence of weapons? In college at UC Berkeley I read a great deal on Thomas Jefferson and John Locke. Jefferson wrote "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." When you look at Locke's work pertaining to the social contract, things get even more interesting. That the social contract becomes null and void the minute it does not benefit both sides. Based on his thoughts, is the social contract still valid? Guns are not something to be lusted after or obsessed. They are not meant to feel powerful or make the inadequate, adequate. They are tools and should be treated as such. You should know how to use a hammer or wrench even though you might not own one. Our founding father's felt it was necessary for citizens of this country to be well trained and well armed to defend it's shores against any threat, both foreign and domestic. Think about that...well trained. That does not mean sitting at home playing Call of Duty with a safe full of guns hoping for the zombies to come. That means being physically fit and proficient with your weapons. As one day you might be called upon to use your skills. I agree the gun culture and obsession has gotten out of control. But i feel Hollywood and Infinity Ward are more to blame for perpetuating this in society. I wrote a post the other day about vision and culture that can be applied to this very easily. We cant change the culture w/o a change in vision. Comment by John — December 28, 2012 at 9:52am
15.	I tread lightly into this discussion, but my take is this: people are attacking the low hanging fruit. If you really, objectively think about the source of society's problems, it all comes down to family. If people focused on raising their kids in an intact home, we'd probably see a dramatic decline in all kinds of problems. Sadly, none of the politicians want to broach this subject for fear of losing votes. It's fine to attack the school system, the teachers, the police, the tools (guns, in this case), but God forbid, we tell people to have kids when they're ready (emotionally, financially), or if they had an accident, to at least raise their kid together. Yes, there are always exceptions. Comment by Ingo B 96/m/5'10"/185 — December 28, 2012 at 11:02am
16.	Well, I worked out today so... Making up some days 1RM box jump: had some momentum going then had to move/wait for a class; worked up to a jump right below my belly button (I'm 5'10") but wasn't there mentally so didn't get anything higher ASWOD - Deadlift: 1x5@325#; felt really solid; mixed grip WOD Did a modified version of our gym's WOD today 21-15-9 Calorie row DB hang squat clean thrusters (50#) 8:58 @Brian Bowers: I think if you are efficient with your mobility/warm up, plan your warmup sets, and move right along to your DWOD you can get in and out in under an hour. Generally Tuesdays are quick (only one set of deadlifts) but Mondays and Thursdays are a little longer. If you're really under a time crunch I'd say it would be best to work a week behind so you can plan your week better and maybe modify the workout to fit your needs. You can also use Saturday as a makeup day if you need to skip any of the DWODs from the week, or, if you're really hurting for a stretch of open time, do the SWOD in the morning and then the DWOD later in the evening. Comment by dredlocked — December 28, 2012 at 11:32am
17.	John, thanks for the well written and thought out response to the short sighted c'mon man post. I typically do not post because I usually finish my workouts after the next days workout has been posted, but c’mon mans comments need rebuttals. Apparently he is ok with practicing and using his right for freedom and of speech on this website, but the right to bear arms ok to have taken from everyone? I’m sure he is the type that would fight tooth and nail for a voice but not for the right of arms that can protect him. Not much a voice will do if you can’t protect yourself if necessary. I love the Jefferson quote you referenced. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Most people don't realize that this is the main reason for freedom of arms and somehow don't think this would actually happen if the right to bear arms was taken away. How do people not see that, as the article you posted states, that the places with the strictest gun laws in the country are the places with the highest crime rates using a gun? By the way, there is an article on MSN that states that Chicago has recorded its 500th homicide this year, the majority of which by handguns. This is the city with its gun regulations put in place by our current president. It doesn’t seem to be working there, why would it work anywhere else. The people have the right to bear arms if they choose, so that they may protect their loves ones. I am just sick of people that are so willing to take or freely give away my rights. It is your right and choice to own or carry a gun, but do not take or volunteer to take this right away from me. It is unfortunate that we have to fight for our given rights. Finally I wanted to say how much I enjoy the programming. I started Crossfit in Jan of this year and decided that I need to get stronger and found CFFB. I started CFFB in Sep and have seen nothing but gains. In 4 short months my CFFB Total has gone up 70 pounds. We are going to perform the Total again next week to see our progress and I expect my Total to increase by at least 100 pounds to nearly 1300 pounds since I started. Thanks! Comment by Elew — December 28, 2012 at 11:33am
18.	Power Snatch 2RM: @ 150# then 4x2 @ 135# still struggle with this move Weighted Chin-ups 5RM: @ 34kg ~ 75# Box Jump 1RM: 47.5" Comment by Hirst 33/5'6"/175 — December 28, 2012 at 12:03pm
19.	CSWOD Power Snatch 2RM 175lbs, 4x2 @ 150, first time doing power snatches in awhile. been doing full mostly these felt a little foreign today Chine Up 5RM 55lbs DWOD: 49", usually do one step best at that is 57" didnt think taking that away would make that much of a diffrence CFSB Comment by Carl C — December 28, 2012 at 1:16pm
20.	I worked out as well, but anyone who reads my posts knows power snatches, chin ups and damn sure jumping on a box are all out for me right now. As such, I was on my own. Sucks. I second Ingo's comments and likewise tiptoe into this discussion. I am not a gun owner. However, I believe in an individual's right to bear arms as provided for in the Second Amendment. Whether and how to limit those rights is a matter for discussion for those in Washington and for those of us Average Joes. Are there other matters that need discussion as well (i.e. mental health, family values, etc)? Absolutely. What is needed is intelligent and thoughtful discussion among folks willing to listen to the other side and God forbid compromise on a reasonable solution. There has to be one, and it is mandatory we keep discussing the issues until we find one. Babies were slaughtered. We, as a society, cannot accept this and go on our way with accepting the status quo as being good enough. It obviously is not. Comment by t.russell35@yahoo.com — December 28, 2012 at 1:31pm
21.	Well, there's my email. Whoops. Love to hear from the Nation anytime, I guess. Comment by TRuss — December 28, 2012 at 1:33pm
22.	Nursing sore shoulder. Need mobility work. BJ 1RM: 44.5" PS 2RM: 175 WCU 5RM: 100 Comment by bdc 37/5'11"/195 — December 28, 2012 at 1:33pm
23.	ASWOD PC 245 DWOD 34" Comment by Mike J — December 28, 2012 at 1:42pm
24.	It seems odd that an "epidemic" effected only ~140 people out of the 315M in the country. You probably have better chances getting lost in the Bermuda Triangle than getting killed in a mass murder. With that said, one person is one too many; however, there will always be tragedy and there will always be evil. All we can do is our best to minimize its impact on us as a unified nation. Allowing our right to bear arms (<-- see what I did there?) to be squandered bit by bit is just as short sighted as our medical professionals offering up countless drugs when a lifestyle intervention is what is at the root. Put your tinfoil hat on for this next bit. Life here may not be so hunky dory forever and ever amen. Our government could be taken over by a hostel dictator. We could experience an invading army. A natural disaster could leave many unhoused and hungry and looking to separate you from your stash. Hell, they might have huge hardons and be looking for your wife and/or little boy. Would a gun help you defend your little child's pooper? It just might. I understand some people will object to gun ownership, much like some will be vegans, but understand that for the betterment of society, someone has to eat that face and consume that soul.... or am I just nuts? Comment by Drey — December 28, 2012 at 1:54pm
25.	Loved this workout. Worked on my overall form on the snatch, ended up with 2RM of 115 with the cleanest form I've ever achieved. 36 inches on the box jumps with a pretty close call that would have taken me out. Also, coached my GF do a PB on her deadlift. Good day at the gym for sure. Comment by Chris — December 28, 2012 at 1:57pm
26.	Someone already posted it earlier, but the issue isn't about guns, or school, or God or anything like that. As a nation, our ideals have changed from a family-based, providing standpoint to a "as much as you can afford" view. If people stopped putting more time into everything else and started putting more time into their families, a lot of potential problems could be avoided. Granted, this does not account for mental illness, but if you spend the extra time with your children, you might catch and prevent anything from happening. Instead of trying to make our lives rich by material gains, we should all strive to make our lives rich in quality of family. Comment by Officer JayBear — December 28, 2012 at 2:06pm
27.	a little off the subject of guns but this is what sparked this controversy. The media needs to stop putting so much time into these school shootings. Stop showing a picture of the shooter, don't release his name. When the media stops giving attention to these horrible acts of violence, I believe there will be a decrease in these happenings. I think it's these sick fucks just trying to top each other and go out famous. Comment by Fintan — December 28, 2012 at 2:40pm
28.	Max Height Box Jump @ 48". Had 50" up but bailed on a few attempts. Next time. ASWOD: 5x3 PC @ 180# 3 x max strict chin ups @ 12,10,8 with about 3 minutes rest between sets. Comment by Erik — December 28, 2012 at 2:50pm
29.	i'm not going to get into a constitutional law debate with someone who can't be bothered to know the difference between exert and excerpt, so i'll just note that, according to our founding fathers, including your boys TJ and GW, women had no right to vote and slaves were only 3/5 of a person. sometimes, shit needs to change. Comment by c'mon man — December 28, 2012 at 3:02pm
30.	That is all you got? One typo and some equality issues? I would expect someone who lives in the city of brotherly love to at least support the founding fathers and the constitution. Comment by John — December 28, 2012 at 3:47pm
31.	And shit does need to change. I just dont think you can change the gun culture in this country. Comment by John — December 28, 2012 at 3:48pm
32.	@c'mon man, I think you've run the gamut of logical fallacies and non-arguments in your latest post. First you call out John for a spelling mistake in an Internet message board post which was certanly typed hastily and probably typed on a phone. Why not address the substance of John's detailed and well reasoned post? Second, you set up a massive straw man, pointing to two COMPLETELY unrelated portions of the constitution as though they support your arguments. Here, I'll do it too - I'll just note that, according to our founding fathers, including your boys GW and TJ, every human being has a right to free speech, to be free from unreasonable searches and seizuures by the government, and to due process of law. Sometimes the founding fathers got shit right. I can't speak for everyone, but I definitely don't want to live in a world where only criminals and governments have guns. If you think crime, corruption, and regulatory overreach are prevalent now...? Join the discussion with some real facts and on point arguments and sign your real name or CFFB handle. Otherwise there's no point in serious people taking you seriously. Comment by Shawsie — December 28, 2012 at 3:49pm
33.	I don't understand why your 2nd amendment rights trump my 1st amendment rights. I don't understand why anyone with children would be against making it harder for mentally unstable to people to have free access to massive amounts of assault weapon ammo and assault weapons and body armor. I don't understand why anyone with half a brain would be against closing the gun show loophole. Comment by c'mon man — December 28, 2012 at 4:50pm
34.	I'm 6 days behind because of my schedule. I'll start posting on Sunday. Anyway as a Marine my motto in the 'Ghan was always, "Its better to be judged by twelve than to be carried by six." I still live by that motto. And always remember that even if the government makes a law--and that law is unconstitutional--you have no obligation to follow it. People seeking to do you or your loved ones harm certainly won't. Comment by Nick0311 — December 28, 2012 at 5:03pm
35.	ASWOD: 5x3 power clean at 190#. 3 x max pull-ups: 15, 13, 14. 50 evil wheels_2:32 Comment by Caine — December 28, 2012 at 5:04pm
36.	Lots of wild talk on all sides of this one. A couple thoughts: 1) No, i do not believe that a single person should have access to ridiculous amounts of firepower. Yes, i realize that drawing the line is the hard part. 2) It seems that the majority of these incidents are perpetrated by individuals who were known to have been, for lack of a better word, crazy. Perhaps that should be more of an area of focus... 3) I was heartened to see John reference the culture article. It came directly to mind for me as well. Folks on both sides of the argument can respectively point to other countries with lots of guns, or very few guns, and low crime as the basis for their points. The difference in all instances is one of culture. 4) People are using the term "gun crime", and associated statistics, interchangeably with these large scale shootings. There is a difference between gang shootings in chicago and these thought out, carefully planned attacks by crazy people. The statistics are not relevant. These incidents are one thing and the general "gun violence" (gang shootings, armed robbery, etc) is another. Comment by CW — December 28, 2012 at 6:34pm
37.	58" BJ today!!! Comment by Michael Baudhuin — December 28, 2012 at 6:42pm
38.	More Guns, Less Crime!!! Love it. Helluva wod today. I was spent!!! Here's to the next rest day...wed!!! Comment by Bert — December 28, 2012 at 6:59pm
39.	ASWOD: PC 5x3@187.5 Chinups 17/13/12 Box Jump about 40" If I may court ridicule I'll put my two bits into this debate... In my opinion this grandstanding about the 2nd amendment is largely irrelevant...no current politician is talking about taking away everyone's guns. People are talking about very reasonable public policy changes to make it harder to sell and buy guns, to include bans on things like high capacity magazines and military style semiautomatic rifles that no hunter would ever need. (unless some of you guys are killing entire herds of buffalo). Fact is guns are responsible for over 30,000 deaths a year in the US, including over 12,000 homicides, which is like 2.5 Iraq wars happening each year here in terms of US casualties (worse if you count the suicides). THe US, as John describes, is absolutely saturated with weapons, but I think the answer of arming anyone is a truly dystopian vision of a violent society that looks more like Somalia than the United States of America. I know a lot of you guys like to bring up Red Dawn or whatever, but a monopoly on legitimate violence is practically one of the definitions of a functioning government. Obviously violence wouldnt stop with longer waiting times to purchase handguns and a ban on assault rifles, but I cant imagine a contraction on supply through longer waiting times wouldnt raise the price of illicit guns and make it harder for your average gang member to arm himself and escalate a street corner confrontation into murder. NOt to mention that guns are a favorite tool of suicides and rates would probably go down if those people only had access to less impulsive ways of killing themselves. So basically, I dont think our society should accept current levels of violence and shoot down all restrictions on gun ownership and carrying just because of a constitutional amendment from 1790. Yes, guns are the low hanging fruit compared to the deeper causes of violence like broken families, male alienation due to the slow decline of our social contract, and poor mental health services, but why not pick the low hanging fruit first? Thanks, and thanks to John for the great free programming. Ben Stone Comment by BS — December 28, 2012 at 7:28pm
40.	a very well thought out piece: http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/ it's scary how not that far from a police state we are. drones, warrantless wire tapping, abandonment of select civil liberties if you are a "terrorist"...the list goes on. this country was great because of the freedoms we had AND the RESPECT we had for such freedoms. until we turn the scope onto our own internal issues, we are doomed to spiral down in this cycle. the value we hold for life is so small, i wouldn't even call it shocking; it's insulting , and the root of the issue. as john wrote, culture and vision, two very difficult things to change. Comment by SCH — December 28, 2012 at 7:52pm
41.	@Ben Stone- appreciate a dude with a pair and willing to offer up a nicely stated counter-argument in a forum where such an opinion will be in the minority. Nice work. Tom Russell Comment by TRuss — December 28, 2012 at 7:58pm
42.	More guns, Be Careful!!! Love the commentary!!! One of the best workouts ever today!!! Comment by Ella — December 28, 2012 at 7:59pm
43.	ASWOD: power clean 5x3@ 190#, chin-ups 22,17,13. not really sure how high my box jump was, nothing too impressive though. Comment by Ryan G — December 29, 2012 at 12:31am
44.	but blood makes the grass grow!!! Comment by yut!yut! — December 29, 2012 at 7:41am
45.	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RablPaIREkk Can't help myself. Comment by Jeff H M/29/205/5'8" — December 29, 2012 at 8:04am
46.	Since John is already so well-read on Jefferson and Locke, maybe he should read the first half of the Second Amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State...." We don't have a civilian militia anymore, we have the National Guard. So why do citizens still have a right to be armed? Comment by Bill — December 29, 2012 at 8:20am
47.	CSWOD - PS 2RM@145. 4x2@135 from hang. - W Chin 5RM@60 DWOD - Box Jump 1RM@40 in lifting shoes. Very weak and slow today. Comment by Shawsie — December 29, 2012 at 8:41am
48.	@Bill The NG has essentially become an arm of the Federal Government which yields increasing power over the states. NG units have been deploying around the world for quite some time. Do you believe the States have any innate interests in the affairs of Korea, the Persian Gulf, or the Balkans? Comment by Ben R — December 29, 2012 at 8:45am
49.	These aren't my thoughts. It was a reply to this article: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/12/27/5079151/california-gun-sales-increase.html#disqus_thread I think it's time to analyze the comparisons being thrown around about the US verses Canada, the UK, and Australia. These cherry picked nations used by gun-control advocates do not compare well with the United States when dealing with the issue of murder and/or violent crimes. Omitting the use of the propaganda term "gun crime" one can see that actual violent crime in the US is not much different than Europe. However, let us examine first the comparisons of the UK, Canada and Australia with the US using population parity rather than simply Per Capita, since Per Capita is misleading if the populations of the countries being compared aren't even remotely similar. To gain this equivalency we must compare state of the US to these countries since the populations of these countries are five-twenty times smaller than that of the US. The violent crime rate of countries like Canada and Australia are not lower than equivalent US states. The idea that the US should be compared to the UK, Australia, or Canada as a whole is ludicrous, and disingenuous. The UK only has a population of 63,000,000 people. The US has 312,000,000, nearly five times more than the UK. Total violent crime in the US (2010 Census figures) was 1,318,000. Total violent crime in the UK (2010 Home Office Statistical Bulletin 2010) was 962,877 (omitting property crimes that may have involved a weapon). So the UK has nearly the violent crime of the US, yet 1/5th its population. A better comparison would be to take the three largest states by population (for density) of California, Texas, and New York state (78,000,000 people). They had a total violent crime rate of 371,854 (using 2010 Census data). Thus the UK's violent crime is nearly triple (2.6 times more) that of those states combined. All of those states have less strict gun laws and more gun owners than the UK, with Texas having nearly no gun laws in comparison to the UK. The United States has overall more gun owners than the UK has citizenry at 80,000,000+ known gun owners in the United States. Thus it is to be expected that a country with five times the population should have a significant (at least 5 times or more) the homicide of the UK. To contrast this, let us take a country like Russia. Russia has a population of 141,000,000 with a total number of gun owners at 12,000,000 (approx) yet they have 5 times the violent crime (13,100 homicides alone) we have (source Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs report 2010). As for comparisons of the US with Canada and Australia, the numbers speak for themselves. Canada's population is 34,000,000. Australia’s is only 23,000,000. California alone has 37,000,000 people in it, and even it's gun control laws are less strict than in those nations. California had 161,133 violent crimes last year (2011) according to the FBI crime stats. While Canada had 437,000 violent incidents last year (according to StatsCan 2010 report). Guess which place is safer? If we're talking violent crime, California. The population of Texas is only 25,000,000 people, which makes it comparable to Australia. In Texas, they have virtually NO gun laws compared to Australia, Yet the total number of violent crimes in Texas was 113,231. In Australia their total number of violent crimes were 117,873 in 2011. While Texas does have more murders than Australia, the numbers are so close as to be insignificant in so far as the availability of firearms having any measurable effect. One can stake the claim that gun ownership didn't do anything to avert these murders, and that is what many (if not most) peer-review studies (like JAMA's) have concluded over the years. However, depriving US citizens of their right to keep and bear arms for laws that do nothing either way, is clearly an infringement of their inalienable rights and bad policy. If we compare the US murder rate to Europe as a whole, we find something rather interesting (EU crime statistics 2010). Land Mass: Europe- 10,180,000 Sq/KM US- 9,826,675 Sq/KM Population: Europe- 836,398,000 US- 309,496,000 Murder Rate: Europe- 4.83 per 100,000 US- 4.58 per 100,000 Gun Ownership: Europe- 12,000 per 100,000 US- 90,000 per 100,000 Europe's murder rate of 4.83 per 100,000 is higher than that of the United States' 4.58 per 100,000, but has only 14% the civilian gun ownership of the U.S. Conversely, the U.S. has 7.33 times the civilian gun ownership of Europe, but a lower murder rate. What we must do at this point as Americans is to cease and desist with the emotional diatribes, vitriol, and pointless calls for nonsensical restrictions on constitutionally protected gun ownership. We must realize that gun ownership is not the cause of crime in the US, even if on occasion horrific acts are committed with them. In short, we do not punish 80,000,000 people for the actions of a few. Comment by Kimball — December 29, 2012 at 2:04pm
50.	John, Thanks as always. As someone who lost power/gas/water for some time less than two months ago, I remember the looters. http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/looters-will-be-shot.jpg Comment by michaelRB — December 29, 2012 at 5:00pm
51.	54" M/6'/200 Comment by Harrison — December 29, 2012 at 10:52pm
52.	Box jump - 50.5" PS 2RM - 152.5" with ugly press out. 4x2 @125# based on previous, cleaner set (135#) Weighted chin 5RM - 24.57kg Comment by Ingo B 96/m/5'10"/185 — December 31, 2012 at 2:39pm
53.	@Kimball You have some nice rhetoric - but as an Australian I feel it necessary to point out your total wrongness in the figures you've attributed to Australian murders with firearms. You compared Texas with Australia: "The population of Texas is only 25,000,000 people, which makes it comparable to Australia. In Texas, they have virtually NO gun laws compared to Australia, Yet the total number of violent crimes in Texas was 113,231. In Australia their total number of violent crimes were 117,873 in 2011." We're not talking violent crime, we're talking murder by gun... so... You said: "While Texas does have more murders than Australia, the numbers are so close as to be insignificant in so far as the availability of firearms having any measurable effect." Ok.... I don't know that figures you were looking at, but I looked at these: Total Firearm murders in the Texas in 2010: 805 (Source: FBI: Crime in the United States, Murder, by State, by Weapon) http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl20.xls Total Firearm murders in Australia in 2010: 30 (Source: Australian Institute of Criminology, Australian Crime - Facts & Figures, 2011) http://www.aic.gov.au/documents/0/B/6/%7B0B619F44-B18B-47B4-9B59-F87BA643CBAA%7Dfacts11.pdf From the AIC document: "Over the past two decades, an average of 19 people per year have been killed by offenders using firearms....The proportion of homicide victims killed by offenders using firearms in 2009–10 represented a decrease of 18 percentage points from the peak of 31 percent in 1995–96 (the year in which the Port Arthur massacre occurred with the death of 35 people, which subsequently led to the introduction of stringent firearms legislation)." Just wanted to make sure Australia (and it's gun murder rates) was not misrepresented! :) Thoughts? Comment by Tim Brown — January 2, 2013 at 6:06am
54.	But we are talking "violent crime", not just guns. The numbers about Australia, with no disrespect to your home turf, show that if you take away the ability to kill at a distance, it does not necessarily take away one's ability to kill. The same tragic morning those poor souls were lost in Newtown, a coward in China attacked 22 school children with a knife: where they regulate and track "large knife" ownership, and no private firearms ownership is permitted. Comment by C.K. — January 2, 2013 at 9:52am
55.	@ C.K. I may be confused at the point you're trying to make, but I don't see your argument as beneficial to the idea that gun control isn't the answer. One day one man attacks a school and over 20 people end up dead. The same day another man attacks a different school and over 20 people are injured yet none die. The first man used a gun; the second man used a knife. Obviously restricting guns isn't a cure for violent crimes, but it sure doesn't hurt. I'd also like to add that no one with any sort of intelligence is talking about taking away your guns if you are in fact a responsible gun owner. But there needs to be more regulation and safeguards in place to ensure that people are in fact responsible gun owners. There's no reason I should be able to walk into a walmart empty handed and walk out with a gun that same day with no training or licensing, that's insane. I don't understand why truly responsible gun owners aren't in favor of tighter restrictions. You'll still be able to keep your guns; people that shouldn't have them will be less likely to have them; and you'll probably take less flak from your opposition as well. As gun owners you should be more upset about gun violence than the rest of us, you're the ones who are getting the unnecessarily bad rep. Comment by Sorry I'm Late — January 5, 2013 at 8:46pm

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